Just noticed something in The Long Cosmos' blurb, at the end of the last sentence -
"It's impact will be felt by and resonate with all - mankind and other species, young and old, communities and individuals - who inhabit the Long Earths..."
It says "the Long Earths", rather than "the Long Earth"!
You know in The Long Mars, when Frank, Sally and Willis are on Gap Mars East 1 and they look up at the earth in that universe, and it's not Gap East 1? Wouldn't that earth that they see be in a different chain of Earths to our Long Earth? Meaning that it would be in a seperate Long Earth, and that there are multiple!
Is that what the blurb is talking about? What do you guys think? Had you noticed this already?
Just finished reading "At the core" and the bit about the Abrahamses at New Springfield.
Literally laughed out loud when I understood they were talking about a world shaped like a disc! Hahaha Too bad it was not kept in the final edition.
And also bad that they didn't keep that touching father/son moment between Lobsang and Ben as well! Would have given him a more human side.
I wonder if the things written there are considered as canon like the bit about Jimmy Bamber, etc... because there's a mention about the Bambers in TLU but no specific names.
I think we should consider them cannon. Though the bit on the website from TLE doesn't quite work, I think - when the trolls discover First Person Singular's homeworld, they've just been thorugh the Gap. So, according to that, her homeworld is only just beyond the Gap, not in the Traverser belt...?
Also, did you understand the cueball story in The Long Cosmos? I enjoyed all the other stories - they were very Tales of Beedle the Bard esque - but I didn't quite get that one...did you?
Actually, there's no reason why First Person Singular has to have come from the Traverer band, I think?
There's no precise indication of how much time has passed between the moment the trolls passed the Gap and encountered First Person Singular so it's safe to assume she comes from the Traverser band even if the contrary wouldn't come as a surprise as well.
They had already been through a trauma. Several worlds back they had stepped into an empty place that none could understand. They had lost some of their number during those awful moments of silence and brilliant light and falling. More had died in the days that followed, in agony.
This indicates that some time as passed since they passed the Gap. I guess it all depends on how fast trolls can step.
As for the Cueball, I understood that a Cueball might be a sign of two chains of planets overlapping. Thus the resulting planet is a mix of the two planets that cross. How did you understand it?
I really liked the story of Johnny Shakespeare :)
"Several worlds back" = 175,000,000? But I get what you mean, that makes sense. Didn't take that into account.
Yeah, I loved Johnny Shakespeare too! I wan't 100% sure about the Cueball, but I think I understand now, thanks :)
I'm going to revamp the maps, to add stuff from The Long Cosmos and also just because I've noticed quite a few mistakes haha. Is there anything you've noticed is wrong in them or that I should change?
Also, in chapter 30 of TLM it's stated that "around Earth West 175,000,000 they again found a divergence from the simple-cell purple scum worlds." They're talking about the Traverser belt - do they mean that the band of worlds starts at about West 175,000,000, or that the whole thing is located around that point? What do you think?
Didn't notice any errors so far but I could be mistaken.
I think the Traverser belt starts earlier and is located around Earth West 175,000,000. I don't have The Long Utopia with me right now but I think it's more explained when Joshua and Sally go to look for Lobsang (around chapter 33 I think).
Yep, found it and you're right - it's around 175,000,000, not begining there.
Cut out the East side of that map, since it wasn't being used. More space for the worlds on the West side of the spectrum.
For the belts I tried using the colours of the belt symbols to have some continuity though the wiki (see the pic). I'm not sure the colours match...or does that not matter so much do you think?
Also added the Tethys. Made it dark green because we don't have symbol yet.
What if we use the symbols in the big belts? Could look good no?
You could put the symbols in the grey central area where there's "DATUM EARTH TO EARTH...".
Made the map thicker, so that the centre space is smaller.
I think I'm done? I might make a new map as well - one for the ice belt. There are quite a few worlds that would go on it, and I've realised we know quite a lot about what areas are interglacial/ice aged (especially from The Long Cosmos), so I could put that on it too.
Also, when we make the page for West 1,520,875 (the world Joshua takes his sabbatical on in TLC), will it be considered valhallan, para-venusian or both? In chapter 10 it says that he was on the border between the two (so both?). According to the numbers given about the Valhallan belt, it's within its limits (so Valhallan?). And later in TLC, chapter 24, it's refered to as a "para-venus" (so para-venus??). What do you think?
Nice work! I like it. In retrospect, I can see how the Ice Belt symbol can overlap with the text.
From what I recall from West 1,520,875, I guess it's considered a para-venusian world. I'd have to re-read that part :)
What do you think?